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Mead to meet with Pavillion residents to talk water supply

wyofile.com -- Wyoming Gov. Matt Mead will meet with Pavillion area residents from 10:15 a.m. to 11:45 a.m. Monday to discuss strategies for a long-term drinking water supply. Residents in about two dozen homes currently rely on water filtration and commercial delivery service for drinking water due to health concerns related to groundwater in the area.

Currently, the state of Wyoming and EnCana Oil & Gas USA — the main operator of the Pavillion natural gas field — are paying for the water delivery service.

In 2009, many residents in the central Wyoming farming community were told by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry to not drink or cook with water from their domestic wells due to the presence of hydrocarbons and high levels of sodium, and to use ventilation while showering due

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,972 Points:1,247,150 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 6:04:12 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse humancry: if it were as safe as touted, then why are areas where there were no problems before (WY, AR, TX, PA, etc) suddenly having problems with their drinking water being polluted by various HydroCarbons and folks are being told not to consume the water? If the industry were to use only what's disclosed and there was such great safety in place (it looks good on paper, but that's a whole 'nudda ball o' wax ...), then why are these pollutants coinciding w/ the drilling?
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:4,254 Points:1,309,120 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2012 12:01:22 AM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse More people, greater need for water.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:5,291 Points:1,273,225 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:55:49 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse Water will get more and more expensive
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,046 Points:1,273,250 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 11:55:04 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse I'm sure these residents of Wyoming are not too happy that hydraulic fracturing has poisoned the water in their homes. It's tough when you can't take a shower without getting gassed by methane eminating from the showerhead!!! Don't light any matches! Of course our EPA Director knows nothing about this. Fortunately the Governor of Wyoming does.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:3,022 Points:455,180 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 8:31:57 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse humancry, great observation.
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EmperorsFinest Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,034 Points:218,465 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:35:42 PM Ignore EmperorsFinest Report Abuse Hmmmm corporate profit or safely diposition the chemicals. Easy choice for us. Much harder for Corporate.
AJeepLife Veteran Author Ottawa Posts:307 Points:164,830 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:33:04 PM Ignore AJeepLife Report Abuse Any time we add chemicals deep into the ground, there is a risk of spoilage in other areas. THUS the reason to look for less toxic means in the fracking process
nigelb Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,834 Points:1,061,550 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:28:38 PM Ignore nigelb Report Abuse Everyone who thinks fracking is great should read this! Public safety and clean water must take priority over corporate profit. Looks like the EPA is needed after all despite the Republican clowns wanting to destroy it.
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CiVX Champion Author Oakland Posts:6,153 Points:1,112,380 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:17:58 PM Ignore CiVX Report Abuse We got to get our pryorities strait Corporate profits or health and quality of life for the masses; I'm sure we will be told what is best.
72_Monte Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,963 Points:1,636,275 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:17:51 PM Ignore 72_Monte Report Abuse A lesson to those so hyped for fracking in your state.
dchiou Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,643 Points:463,060 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:16:25 PM Ignore dchiou Report Abuse maybe it's due to fracking?
humancry Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,799 Points:837,995 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:14:36 PM Ignore humancry Report Abuse IM LISTENING TO THIS GAS BUDDYS IDEA HE SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT: drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:3,047 Points:286,470 Joined:Apr 2011 Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:38:09 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Ok teafertwo wanted to know how a well is drilled. This was cut and pasted from a NASDAQ article from two or three days ago. Please note the casing structures that are designed to protect the aquifer that is drilled through. So what does a horizontal hydraulic fracturing natural gas well look like? Variations abound depending on geography, but each well more or less matches this "anatomy." The following well design reflects a Barnett Shale gas well in North Texas. Lets assume natural gas sits 8,000 feet below the surface, and an aquifer lies 1,000 feet below the surface. This is what the frackers actually do: 0- 1,050 ft. Using a 12.5-inch drill, crews dig into the ground to roughly 50 feet (can be more) below the water table. Regulations in other states require different depths but in general, wells are drilled below any sources of ground water. Once completed, a 9.62-inch metal tube or casing is installed through the entire length of this hole. Crews then fill the annular, or circular, space between the surface casing and the raw earth with cement to seal off the aquifer from the eventual flow of natural gas back up the well. 1,050 - 7,500 ft. Through the surface casing, a smaller drilling pipe is then inserted, and starting from the bottom of the casing pipe, crews dig a smaller hole 8.75 inches in diameter to 7,500 ft. This depth will be considered the "kickoff point" where drillers start the horizontal curve in any which direction depending on geologic surveys. The idea is to drill in the direction believed to yield the most hydrocarbons. 7,500 - 8,000 ft. Using a specialized piece of equipment that can both drill down and at an angle, drilling crews will start extending the vertical well horizontally from the "kickoff point." This portion can extend for another 1,000 ft., before the well levels off completely. 8,000 ft. Once in the pocket of hydrocarbons, crews will continue drilling for another 2,500 or 3,000 ft horizontally. To the north in the Bakken Shale oil play of North Dakota and Montana, crews can drill horizontally for up to 10,000 ft. The size of the well depends on the company's lease. Once the well is drilled to the desired "total depth," drilling equipment is taken out of the well and a second type of casing is run down the entire length of the well - usually measuring about 5.5 inches in diameter. This production casing will stretch from the surface to total depth. Once in place, crews will cement the annular space between the production casing and the 8.75-inch hole the casing was introduced in. Working from the bottom up, cement will be poured thoughout the horizontal and curved portion of the well and roughly 1,000 ft into the vertical shaft. The cementing helps push the drilling mud and other fluids up through the remaining 3.25-inch annular space separating the casing with the raw earth. By now, the well is structurally complete. Once the cement has settled, a pneumatic perforator is sent down into the horizontal portion of the well, or total depth, and will punch holes through the casing. This is done so as to allow the fracturing fluids and sands to infiltrate the rock, fracture it, and collect any hydrocarbons located there. One well can be hydraulically fractured many times. Crews can frack the same well progressing along its total depth by 50 feet at a time, or as desired, pumping hundreds of thousands of gallons of water and chemicals into the ground. Important to note: one drilling rig can drill multiple wells. Read more: http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-01/text deleted
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GryphonX Champion Author Nevada Posts:5,002 Points:1,282,220 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:10:15 PM Ignore GryphonX Report Abuse Sounds like the water at my house ... which is fallout from the Silver mining boom in NV 150 years ago ...
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swkcpi All-Star Author Madison Posts:633 Points:56,830 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 4:02:24 PM Ignore swkcpi Report Abuse Great job drpepperTX. Everyone should read this first before they run their mouths off, talking about something they have no understanding of.
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drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:4,950 Points:393,370 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:53:45 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse In testimony before the House Subcomittee two days ago an EPA official said that the Pavillion draft report did not condemn fracing. Link
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Drew12345 Rookie Author Reading Posts:92 Points:448,205 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:38:23 PM Ignore Drew12345 Report Abuse How many more reports on wells getting tainted by these companies do we have to hear to finally realize we don't need oil or natural gas. Try maybe a renewable resource.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:4,950 Points:393,370 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:38:09 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Ok teafertwo wanted to know how a well is drilled. This was cut and pasted from a NASDAQ article from two or three days ago. Please note the casing structures that are designed to protect the aquifer that is drilled through. So what does a horizontal hydraulic fracturing natural gas well look like? Variations abound depending on geography, but each well more or less matches this "anatomy." The following well design reflects a Barnett Shale gas well in North Texas. Lets assume natural gas sits 8,000 feet below the surface, and an aquifer lies 1,000 feet below the surface. This is what the frackers actually do: 0- 1,050 ft. Using a 12.5-inch drill, crews dig into the ground to roughly 50 feet (can be more) below the water table. Regulations in other states require different depths but in general, wells are drilled below any sources of ground water. Once completed, a 9.62-inch metal tube or casing is installed through the entire length of this hole. Crews then fill the annular, or circular, space between the surface casing and the raw earth with cement to seal off the aquifer from the eventual flow of natural gas back up the well. 1,050 - 7,500 ft. Through the surface casing, a smaller drilling pipe is then inserted, and starting from the bottom of the casing pipe, crews dig a smaller hole 8.75 inches in diameter to 7,500 ft. This depth will be considered the "kickoff point" where drillers start the horizontal curve in any which direction depending on geologic surveys. The idea is to drill in the direction believed to yield the most hydrocarbons. 7,500 - 8,000 ft. Using a specialized piece of equipment that can both drill down and at an angle, drilling crews will start extending the vertical well horizontally from the "kickoff point." This portion can extend for another 1,000 ft., before the well levels off completely. 8,000 ft. Once in the pocket of hydrocarbons, crews will continue drilling for another 2,500 or 3,000 ft horizontally. To the north in the Bakken Shale oil play of North Dakota and Montana, crews can drill horizontally for up to 10,000 ft. The size of the well depends on the company's lease. Once the well is drilled to the desired "total depth," drilling equipment is taken out of the well and a second type of casing is run down the entire length of the well - usually measuring about 5.5 inches in diameter. This production casing will stretch from the surface to total depth. Once in place, crews will cement the annular space between the production casing and the 8.75-inch hole the casing was introduced in. Working from the bottom up, cement will be poured thoughout the horizontal and curved portion of the well and roughly 1,000 ft into the vertical shaft. The cementing helps push the drilling mud and other fluids up through the remaining 3.25-inch annular space separating the casing with the raw earth. By now, the well is structurally complete. Once the cement has settled, a pneumatic perforator is sent down into the horizontal portion of the well, or total depth, and will punch holes through the casing. This is done so as to allow the fracturing fluids and sands to infiltrate the rock, fracture it, and collect any hydrocarbons located there. One well can be hydraulically fractured many times. Crews can frack the same well progressing along its total depth by 50 feet at a time, or as desired, pumping hundreds of thousands of gallons of water and chemicals into the ground. Important to note: one drilling rig can drill multiple wells. Read more: http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-01/text deleted
TustinDad Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,959 Points:753,160 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:37:55 PM Ignore TustinDad Report Abuse bbthegun wrote: "Problem was created decades ago and it'll take decades to correct it. We have much better clean water laws on the books now." And that wouldn't be because of the ever so hated EPA. would it?
Drew12345 Rookie Author Reading Posts:92 Points:448,205 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:37:24 PM Ignore Drew12345 Report Abuse Na thats impossible... the companies only after money wouldn't poison the normal folk. They care so much.
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GatorGuy Champion Author Columbia Posts:1,412 Points:907,565 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:26:47 PM Ignore GatorGuy Report Abuse Sounds like we need another pipeline....
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,931 Points:2,146,860 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2012 3:25:21 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse I wonder if the governor could spare the time??? Sounds more like an issue of needing to establish a secure water supply to the homes effectedvia pipeline.