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BPA orders NW wind farms to curtail production

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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- The Bonneville Power Administration twice ordered Pacific Northwest wind farms to cut production in recent days because it has a surplus of power from hydroelectric dams.

The agency, which manages much of the power grid in the Northwest, confirmed it issued the orders during the early morning hours of Sunday and Monday, when demand is low.

The action rekindles a dispute from last year, when the agency curtailed wind turbines because the water from a large mountain snowpack left the region with more hydropower than the electrical grid could handle.

Michael Milstein, a BPA spokesman, said spring runoff has picked up in the past month or two. "Originally it wasn't looking like that wet of a year, but that has changed," he said.

The agency controls a majority o

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Submitted May 01, 2012 By: mastermariner

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puinsai808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,544 Points:727,305 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 2, 2012 10:20:14 AM Ignore puinsai808 Report Abuse Interesting.
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,262 Points:1,741,705 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: May 2, 2012 7:37:15 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse The problems of greene power.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,067 Points:1,971,715 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:34:51 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse What the hell is wrong with those A-WHOLES. Sell the power to California. [Edited by: Ken2OD at 5/1/2012 11:35:31 PM EST]
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,394 Points:1,354,895 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:13:43 PM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse For now.
cashpayer Sophomore Author Raleigh Posts:147 Points:81,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:54:59 PM Ignore cashpayer Report Abuse Ironic indeed.
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,037 Points:701,155 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:43:01 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Ironic
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,305 Points:1,637,945 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:25:30 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse WHAT A PROBLEM..TO MUCH POWER!
cashpayer Sophomore Author Raleigh Posts:147 Points:81,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:23:12 PM Ignore cashpayer Report Abuse Sounds to me like SUPRA1987 has a good idea. I also don't know why excess power can't be sold to other areas. Are our power grids so out of date they can't do that?
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,919,155 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:00:07 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Well, there will be less ethanol sold, but where are the vehicles that are going to burn all this excess natural gas?
itsjustme719 All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:611 Points:598,575 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:37:47 PM Ignore itsjustme719 Report Abuse Too bad they couldn't store the excess for when demand is high.
raj_fl Champion Author Trenton Posts:3,209 Points:728,005 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:28:41 PM Ignore raj_fl Report Abuse mmmmm
boborobot All-Star Author Michigan Posts:501 Points:417,550 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:28:23 PM Ignore boborobot Report Abuse So, why aren't they selling their excess on the open market?
nj2000ng Champion Author Houston Posts:1,507 Points:449,020 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:27:55 PM Ignore nj2000ng Report Abuse Ok
TXryder Champion Author Texas Posts:2,709 Points:432,730 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:27:33 PM Ignore TXryder Report Abuse Osama Bin Laden is dead(Happy Anniversary!) and GM is alive.... Barack 2012 ! come on November!
NorthglennBill Champion Author Denver Posts:7,422 Points:1,471,945 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:26:54 PM Ignore NorthglennBill Report Abuse To much electricity. That kind of takes the wind out of all those folks who worry about other folks who are plugging their cars into the grid. Sounds like BPA has more power than they know what to do with.
olive2trvl Rookie Author Philadelphia Posts:68 Points:334,665 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:25:54 PM Ignore olive2trvl Report Abuse Ironic is right. Excessive green enrgynin one area, a death in another
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DTroytNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:366 Points:62,510 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:23:04 PM Ignore DTroytNC Report Abuse Too bad they can stockpile the water for when the wind is down.
SUPRA1987 Sophomore Author Tampa Posts:161 Points:210,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:20:34 PM Ignore SUPRA1987 Report Abuse The excess capacity could be used in hydrolysis to split water into Hydrogen and oxygen thereby producing a storable fuel that could be converted back into electricity when needed or used for other purposes like Hydrogen powered vehicles.
iceman11 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,715 Points:536,425 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:19:28 PM Ignore iceman11 Report Abuse if they have so much of this power why not turn down the nuke plants and use this so called free power
LoneGuy Champion Author Lansing Posts:8,480 Points:2,317,995 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:18:24 PM Ignore LoneGuy Report Abuse So unproven wind was ordered for an area that was already using hydroelectric. How foolishly can they be spending money?
LV_Mike1 Sophomore Author Las Vegas Posts:219 Points:45,290 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:16:21 PM Ignore LV_Mike1 Report Abuse Why isn't the NorthWest getting a rate decrease? I mean......
theschmuck Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,917 Points:1,511,625 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:14:40 PM Ignore theschmuck Report Abuse Just too much of a good thing can be bad for ya, right!!!!!!!!
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Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,380 Points:1,895,185 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:11:23 PM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse wonder what is going on ?
marinedad1949 Champion Author Lancaster Posts:2,491 Points:504,195 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:09:47 PM Ignore marinedad1949 Report Abuse All part of Obummer's hope and change. Keep your hope and let me keep my change.
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hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,854 Points:2,265,715 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:07:47 PM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse I read about this in today's Post
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,135 Points:1,701,105 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:04:21 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse Now this is amazing, but the price will still go up
doggie2 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:3,129 Points:587,400 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:02:46 PM Ignore doggie2 Report Abuse How ironic. Excessive totally clean energy.
36_ACRES_4_SALE All-Star Author Appleton Posts:999 Points:338,815 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:02:03 PM Ignore 36_ACRES_4_SALE Report Abuse :(
camaro_man Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,231 Points:611,025 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:53:23 PM Ignore camaro_man Report Abuse wow
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:15,604 Points:3,068,265 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:52:49 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse But no rate decreases for the NW!
gknee09 All-Star Author Philadelphia Posts:985 Points:822,890 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:47:16 PM Ignore gknee09 Report Abuse more energy than we know what to do with
swrestler Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,135 Points:1,571,825 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:47:02 PM Ignore swrestler Report Abuse Then Our Electric Should Be Going Way Down....
Sarge10 All-Star Author Detroit Posts:857 Points:173,125 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:44:17 PM Ignore Sarge10 Report Abuse Then everyone should only be paying pennies for their electric bill!
hussainktm Rookie Author Dallas Posts:71 Points:331,840 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:43:01 PM Ignore hussainktm Report Abuse why?
yeehaw1073 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,356 Points:1,849,450 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:41:01 PM Ignore yeehaw1073 Report Abuse So the price of electricity is going down for their customers...right?
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heysailor Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:9,582 Points:2,332,670 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:40:05 PM Ignore heysailor Report Abuse Too bad it can't be moved to where it's needed
mrservonics Champion Author Boston Posts:2,729 Points:1,353,405 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:38:13 PM Ignore mrservonics Report Abuse Realy!
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Gascapade Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,022 Points:482,680 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:29:15 PM Ignore Gascapade Report Abuse Excellent, good to have two sources of green power....ideally new technology will eventually provide a way to store this excess power for future use...
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JaylaIN Rookie Author Indiana Posts:1 Points:495 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:24:38 PM Ignore JaylaIN Report Abuse This is crazy
bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:6,347 Points:1,302,615 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:22:38 PM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse This is crazy.
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wackochick Sophomore Author Detroit Posts:113 Points:23,850 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:18:10 PM Ignore wackochick Report Abuse I agree with Chazzy12 they need to spread that extra electricity out on the grid. Too much electricity, then why the hell do we always have to conserve? and why the heck is it so high???????
acvw74 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,105 Points:689,100 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:12:50 PM Ignore acvw74 Report Abuse Sounds like an opportunity for Hydrogen
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