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BPA orders NW wind farms to curtail production

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PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- The Bonneville Power Administration twice ordered Pacific Northwest wind farms to cut production in recent days because it has a surplus of power from hydroelectric dams.

The agency, which manages much of the power grid in the Northwest, confirmed it issued the orders during the early morning hours of Sunday and Monday, when demand is low.

The action rekindles a dispute from last year, when the agency curtailed wind turbines because the water from a large mountain snowpack left the region with more hydropower than the electrical grid could handle.

Michael Milstein, a BPA spokesman, said spring runoff has picked up in the past month or two. "Originally it wasn't looking like that wet of a year, but that has changed," he said.

The agency controls a majority o

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Submitted May 01, 2012 By: mastermariner

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Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,093 Points:2,551,980 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:30:45 PM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse They also kill thousands of birds
kdparham Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:287 Points:1,564,515 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:29:26 PM Ignore kdparham Report Abuse BPA is one of the largest energy traders. Go Figure.
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Hop1LA Champion Author Baton Rouge Posts:3,319 Points:1,177,470 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:26:39 PM Ignore Hop1LA Report Abuse Too much energy production? That must be hard on the utility company!
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:8,366 Points:2,511,650 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:23:59 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse they have to keep the price up some way
walkit1 Champion Author Memphis Posts:3,043 Points:1,307,300 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:22:24 PM Ignore walkit1 Report Abuse Heck, the grid is put together with bailing wire as it is. No plan what so ever!
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,789 Points:847,900 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:20:16 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse They need to pass that extra power onto the grid.
nztyraider Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,273 Points:694,825 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:16:14 PM Ignore nztyraider Report Abuse Build more power plants,duh!
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,359 Points:1,803,765 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:15:49 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse How about that. Too much power. At times Ontario has too much power and we PAY other constituencies to take our excess power. Unbelievably stupid.
Jeepergeo Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:1,380 Points:587,680 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:15:02 PM Ignore Jeepergeo Report Abuse So much for Green Energy.
jimgraham Champion Author Akron Posts:10,372 Points:1,979,960 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:14:40 PM Ignore jimgraham Report Abuse They should, if they aren't already, be selling the computer data centers on the abundance of cheap power in the great Pacific northwest. Get their business - they run 24 / 7 - there is virtually no "off peak" time for them!
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KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,182 Points:621,695 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:12:04 PM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse What a mismanaged, and arrogant, agency BPA is. FERC warned them not to do it last year -- which was a farce. Thanks for the story. When are we going to have a real power grid in this country? BPA is jealous of renewables. [Edited by: KAR120CSII at 5/1/2012 6:14:41 PM EST]
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Bonito Champion Author Dayton Posts:15,761 Points:3,008,870 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:00:57 PM Ignore Bonito Report Abuse Trying to make Obama look bad are we! Try to lower the electric charged to the public, but I guess that doesn't sit well with the Republicans!
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OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,068 Points:1,080,380 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:56:24 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse We need ways to store electrical energy.
jalan25 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:2,345 Points:571,920 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:50:21 PM Ignore jalan25 Report Abuse Storing power from wind turbines has been a problem.
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DeHavilland Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,880 Points:1,905,215 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:27:34 PM Ignore DeHavilland Report Abuse Just like the refiners. Too much cheap oil so they cut production to keep the prices up.
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dollarwatcher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:7,945 Points:1,535,970 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:23:21 PM Ignore dollarwatcher Report Abuse 'Too much electricity'? That's a head shaker.
fire@53 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:11,833 Points:2,770,050 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:21:15 PM Ignore fire@53 Report Abuse So much for wind power! I guess wind power is more costly than hydroelectric power.
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aarrrt Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,276 Points:1,652,545 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:15:25 PM Ignore aarrrt Report Abuse Too bad they can't store the energy for future use.
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SabrinaHokie Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:132 Points:85,415 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:11:55 PM Ignore SabrinaHokie Report Abuse Rather than curtailing it, there should be more investments to either allow it to be supplied to more areas, or storage facilities. Energy shortage is the trend in most parts of the world, not surplus!
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Tiernan Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,485 Points:820,800 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 4:46:11 PM Ignore Tiernan Report Abuse A SURPLUS of power, eh? Nice.
Eflander Sophomore Author Durham Posts:111 Points:634,995 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 4:44:25 PM Ignore Eflander Report Abuse This is what happens when you can't distribute power as needed when some areas produce more than they need.